NEW YORK, January 30, 2020 — Asia Society Policy Institute President Kevin Rudd discusses "decoupling" between the United States and China in the context of broader trends in both countries. (5 min., 50 sec.)

Related: Watch the complete video of Rudd's conversation with former financial diplomat Michael Greenwald. Read Rudd's collection of speeches — The Avoidable War: The Case for Managed Strategic Competiton — here. And listen to Rudd's recent conversation with Asia Society Executive Vice President Tom Nagorski for the Asia In-Depth podcast.